Comments on: SaveTheDevelopers.org AKA Save Me From the Pain of IE6 http://www.drunkenfist.com/304/2008/03/25/savethedevelopersorg-aka-save-me-from-the-pain-of-ie6/ Rob Larsen writes on web design and development, entertainment, sports and culture. Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:27:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: ArkRep http://www.drunkenfist.com/304/2008/03/25/savethedevelopersorg-aka-save-me-from-the-pain-of-ie6/#comment-16006 ArkRep Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:08:02 +0000 http://www.drunkenfist.com/304/2008/03/25/savethedevelopersorg-aka-save-me-from-the-pain-of-ie6/#comment-16006 Bah! ... dam your site stripping my tags correction: 3. Construct your website using divs and styling them till you get your desired look. Bah! … dam your site stripping my tags

correction:

3. Construct your website using divs and styling them till you get your desired look.

]]> By: ArkRep http://www.drunkenfist.com/304/2008/03/25/savethedevelopersorg-aka-save-me-from-the-pain-of-ie6/#comment-16005 ArkRep Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:00:39 +0000 http://www.drunkenfist.com/304/2008/03/25/savethedevelopersorg-aka-save-me-from-the-pain-of-ie6/#comment-16005 Yeah I know what you’re saying, 11k at the top is a pain... I try to keep out as many external links of the page as it loads.. But the JS link is in a IE ‘if’ statement so will be ignored by all modern browsers anyway, and If your using IE6 then my mind set is I spent an extra couple of hours 'fixing' it for IE6 then you can wait an extra couple of seconds. The only thing I’ve found with the IE7 Script is some of the …. Shall we say … hacks is used no longer work.. Ie. Html > Body #div { /* Some styles */ } Will now be read by IE6, which in theory shouldn’t matter as the script should ‘Fix’ most of your problems… But there have been a few instances when this hasn’t been the case. And I haven’t been able to use my normal selector hacks to get round the problems… Saying that most of the solutions I have came up with have fallen back on having a well structured CSS file.. ( For those of you not already in the know ) I mean: 1. Rest your styles to 0 2. Build up a new cross browser default 3. Construct your website using and styling them till you get your desired look. Yeah I know what you’re saying, 11k at the top is a pain… I try to keep out as many external links of the page as it loads..

But the JS link is in a IE ‘if’ statement so will be ignored by all modern browsers anyway, and If your using IE6 then my mind set is I spent an extra couple of hours ‘fixing’ it for IE6 then you can wait an extra couple of seconds.

The only thing I’ve found with the IE7 Script is some of the …. Shall we say … hacks is used no longer work..

Ie.

Html > Body #div
{
/* Some styles */
}

Will now be read by IE6, which in theory shouldn’t matter as the script should ‘Fix’ most of your problems… But there have been a few instances when this hasn’t been the case. And I haven’t been able to use my normal selector hacks to get round the problems…

Saying that most of the solutions I have came up with have fallen back on having a well structured CSS file.. ( For those of you not already in the know ) I mean:

1. Rest your styles to 0
2. Build up a new cross browser default
3. Construct your website using and styling them till you get your desired look.

]]> By: rob http://www.drunkenfist.com/304/2008/03/25/savethedevelopersorg-aka-save-me-from-the-pain-of-ie6/#comment-16004 rob Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:28:42 +0000 http://www.drunkenfist.com/304/2008/03/25/savethedevelopersorg-aka-save-me-from-the-pain-of-ie6/#comment-16004 Dean Edwards is awesome. I've never actually used the IE7 script, but it's a fantastic piece of code. It might actually be a way forward for me as, up until I now I'd be hesitant to add the 11k on top of a site when I possess the knowledge to bug fix specific issues (crafting cleaner, lower performance cost solutions). But as I move IE6 down the order of preference in terms of performance it might save me some headaches in terms of hand crafting solutions and still allow me to "support" IE6 well into the future. Dean Edwards is awesome. I’ve never actually used the IE7 script, but it’s a fantastic piece of code.

It might actually be a way forward for me as, up until I now I’d be hesitant to add the 11k on top of a site when I possess the knowledge to bug fix specific issues (crafting cleaner, lower performance cost solutions). But as I move IE6 down the order of preference in terms of performance it might save me some headaches in terms of hand crafting solutions and still allow me to “support” IE6 well into the future.

]]> By: ArkRep http://www.drunkenfist.com/304/2008/03/25/savethedevelopersorg-aka-save-me-from-the-pain-of-ie6/#comment-16002 ArkRep Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:16:56 +0000 http://www.drunkenfist.com/304/2008/03/25/savethedevelopersorg-aka-save-me-from-the-pain-of-ie6/#comment-16002 http://code.google.com/p/ie7-js/ Helps ease the pain.. Only problems is that it still doesn’t really fix PNG24s, You can place them without using the Internet Explorer 'AlphaImageLoader' ... You simply just have to add *-trans.png on the end of your PNG files, but You still can't tile them or place them using the background CSS tag. It also lets you put pseudo elements on all tags not just anchor tags.. Their's a few bits more.. but I'll let you have a read. http://code.google.com/p/ie7-js/

Helps ease the pain..

Only problems is that it still doesn’t really fix PNG24s, You can place them without using the Internet Explorer ‘AlphaImageLoader’ … You simply just have to add *-trans.png on the end of your PNG files, but You still can’t tile them or place them using the background CSS tag.

It also lets you put pseudo elements on all tags not just anchor tags..

Their’s a few bits more.. but I’ll let you have a read.

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